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01/24/2007 08:00 AM Senate SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION


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08:03:44 AM Overview: Alaska Statewide Mentor Project by the Department of Education
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Overview: Alaska Statewide Mentor Project
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
             SENATE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION                                                                              
                        January 24, 2007                                                                                        
                           8:00 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Gary Stevens, Chair                                                                                                     
Senator Charlie Huggins, Vice Chair                                                                                             
Senator Bettye Davis                                                                                                            
Senator Gary Wilken                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
Overview: Alaska Statewide Mentor Project by the Department of                                                                  
Education                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                              
Roger Sampson, Commissioner                                                                                                     
Department of Education &                                                                                                       
Early Development                                                                                                               
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801 W 10 St.                                                                                                                    
Juneau, AK  99801-1894                                                                                                          
POSITION STATEMENT:  Participated in overview                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Dr. Gary Whiteley                                                                                                               
Department of Education &                                                                                                       
Early Development                                                                                                               
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801 W 10 St.                                                                                                                    
Juneau, AK  99801-1894                                                                                                          
POSITION STATEMENT:  Participated in overview                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Barbara Thompson, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                           
Department of Education &                                                                                                       
Early Development                                                                                                               
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801 W 10 St.                                                                                                                    
Juneau, AK  99801-1894                                                                                                          
POSITION STATEMENT:  Participated in overview                                                                                 
Mary Francis, Executive Director                                                                                                
Alaska Council of School Administrators                                                                                         
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326 4 Street                                                                                                                    
Suite 404                                                                                                                       
Juneau, AK 99801                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  In favor of program                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Bill Bjork                                                                                                                      
NEA-Alaska                                                                                                                      
114 Second Street                                                                                                               
Juneau AK 99801                                                                                                                 
POSITION STATEMENT:  In favor of program                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GARY  STEVENS called  the meeting to  order at  8:00:38 AM.                                                           
Present  at  the  call  to order  were  Senators  Davis,  Wilken,                                                               
Huggins, and Chair Stevens.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW: ALASKA STATEWIDE MENTOR PROJECT BY THE DEPARTMENT OF                                                               
                           EDUCATION                                                                                          
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEVENS  announced  the   committee  would  be  having  an                                                               
overview  from  the  Department of  Education  on  its  statewide                                                               
mentoring  project,  presented  by ROGER  SAMPSON,  Commissioner,                                                               
Department of  Education and Early  Development (DEED),  Dr. GARY                                                               
WHITELEY,  Department   of  Education  Consultant,   and  BARBARA                                                               
THOMPSON, Deputy  Commissioner, Department  of Education  & Early                                                               
Development.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SAMPSON  announced they  would  be  making a  group                                                               
presentation  and then  respond  to any  questions the  committee                                                               
might  have.  He  clarified  that   he  would  be  talking  about                                                               
principal coaching as well as  teacher mentoring across the State                                                               
of  Alaska.   He announced  that the  group had  three goals:  to                                                               
reduce  the  turnover  rate  of   their  teachers,  increase  the                                                               
effectiveness  of principals,  and  increase student  achievement                                                               
across the  state.  A pilot  was run without State  money for two                                                               
years with excellent  results.  The statewide  retention rate has                                                               
been  improved from  68 percent  to 78  percent.   They are  also                                                               
using  research data  from ISER  and the  Department of  Labor to                                                               
study the  cost to the state  of the teacher turnover,  which was                                                               
resulting in a loss of  approximately 18.5 million dollars a year                                                               
at the previous rate.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:03:44 AM                                                                                                                    
COMMISSIONER  SAMPSON explained  that nationally,  50 percent  of                                                               
the  teaching force  is lost  within five  years of  entering the                                                               
profession.   His group is focusing  on a way to  stop the drain.                                                               
The model they're  using for the teacher  and principal mentoring                                                               
shows the results of 18 years  of use in other regions, where the                                                               
retention rate is dramatically heightened.  The mentor project is                                                               
clearly  effective, and  they have  found that  schools that  are                                                               
making  significant growth  in  student  achievement always  have                                                               
effective   administrative  instructional   leaders.  He   noted,                                                               
however,  that not  all administrators  in  Alaska are  receiving                                                               
proper leader  training.   Teachers need to  be supported  by the                                                               
building administrators.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:05:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SAMPSON emphasized  that the  mentoring program  is                                                               
not just a  rural program, but is in 41  districts across Alaska.                                                               
However they are unable to fill  all the requests for the program                                                               
due  to  some  travel  constraints.    The  program  has  greatly                                                               
expanded in recent years, except  for the number of mentors which                                                               
has not been increased as they have wished.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:07:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SAMPSON remarked  that they have begun  to draw more                                                               
heavily   on  recently   retired  teachers,   who  have   greater                                                               
availability  and  do  not  drain  the  career  pool.    He  then                                                               
introduced Gary Whiteley, the director  of the principal coaching                                                               
division.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:07:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WHITELEY  pointed  out  that   the  relationships  with  the                                                               
mentors,  teachers,   and  principals  are  confidential.     The                                                               
information is not shared with district administration.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:08:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WHITELEY referenced a brochure  brought before the committee,                                                               
explaining  the program  training history  within the  last year.                                                               
The program  serves 60 principals  in 26 districts, with  9 part-                                                               
time coaches.  They are  moving more towards centralized-location                                                               
training for the  principals' training in many areas.   The three                                                               
major elements that impact student  achievement are alignment and                                                               
coherence  of  curriculum,  instructional  time,  and  monitoring                                                               
progress.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:11:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WHITELEY began  a PowerPoint presentation.   He explained how                                                               
they  use taped  teaching sessions  to train  their teachers  and                                                               
principals, looking for different teaching elements.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:12:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SAMPSON clarified  that GLE  refers to  Grade Level                                                               
Expectations.   They have a  very precise "roadmap"  for teachers                                                               
and  administrators that  leads  to state  standards in  reading,                                                               
writing, and mathematics.   Approximately 1000 actual assessments                                                               
addressing GLEs are accessible to  teachers and administrators on                                                               
the State website.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:13:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WHITELEY  explained that they  base their programs  on proven                                                               
research.    Fairbanks,  Anchorage,  Ketchikan,  and  Juneau  had                                                               
minimal  turnover  rates  this  year, and  thus  didn't  use  the                                                               
program's  services.   Superintendent  turnover rates  are at  70                                                               
percent in the  last six years in Alaska.   He explained that all                                                               
of  their information  is housed  on  the State  website.   Their                                                               
documents can  be reviewed  online, as well  as a  description of                                                               
the program  and topics.  He  also provided the committee  with a                                                               
list of  program participants and  their coaches.   He emphasized                                                               
that the  program is voluntary,  and also that  occasionally they                                                               
have had to  advise people to seek other  employment because they                                                               
felt they did not belong in the profession.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:17:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SAMPSON   said  that  there  are   9,000  certified                                                               
teachers  in  the  state  and  450  principals,  and  that  while                                                               
everyone  could   benefit  from   mentoring,  expansion   is  not                                                               
realistic; putting  more focus on the  principal coaching program                                                               
is  more  efficient   and  rapid.    After   spending  2-3  years                                                               
mentoring,  50  percent of  mentors  return  to teaching  and  25                                                               
percent move into leadership roles  in schools.  Schools that are                                                               
not  meeting AYP  standards in  many  areas usually  do not  have                                                               
effective leadership in the building.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:20:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SAMPSON offered to take questions.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:20:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEVENS  asked how  one  decides  whether the  program  is                                                               
successful or not.  Is it based on the retention rate?                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:21:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SAMPSON  replied that those  who are a "bad  fit" in                                                               
education comprise a very small  percentage.   Generally teachers                                                               
that   have   good   training  are   happier,   more   productive                                                               
professionals.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:22:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS asked which practices have the greatest impact.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. WHITELEY responded that  classroom-level practices have about                                                               
twice  the  impact  on student  achievement  as  do  school-level                                                               
practices, and are within the control of the principal.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:23:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS  asked what level  of exchange there  was between                                                               
rural and urban schools.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:23:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SAMPSON  replied that  effective instructors  can do                                                               
so in  both rural  and urban  settings, and  this creates  a rich                                                               
environment for mentors.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:25:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGGINS said  that  he was  concerned  that the  mentors                                                               
might be usurping or replacing the principal's power.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:25:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SAMPSON  replied that  most principals  haven't been                                                               
trained to be effective instructional leaders.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:26:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGGINS asked  how it's  determined that  one becomes  a                                                               
principal.  What is the qualification system?                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:27:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SAMPSON replied that  there is a further preparatory                                                               
program which  might not be  effective enough, and that  a method                                                               
was needed to  more effectively align the training  with the job.                                                               
They  are   currently  working  on  redesigning   the  leadership                                                               
program.   Only  1  of  5 administrators  comes  from the  Alaska                                                               
university system,  which is one  of the primary  reasons efforts                                                               
cannot be  focused there.   It is  unrealistic to think  that all                                                               
preparation can happen outside of the school or classroom.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:29:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGGINS remarked  that  the  legislature had  previously                                                               
recommended that  they look  into expanding  the program  to five                                                               
years, and  asked if  there was  a standard  test for  becoming a                                                               
teacher.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:29:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SAMPSON  replied  that  all teachers  must  pass  a                                                               
content-area test in order to become qualified.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:30:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WHITELEY  said that  a Wallace  Foundation study  showed that                                                               
principals learn  on the job,  and that many principals  in rural                                                               
Alaska had no administrative experience.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:31:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS asked what the  turnover rate for superintendents                                                               
was, and  remarked that he remembered  it as being three  to five                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:32:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WHITELEY  replied  that  it  takes  five  to  six  years  to                                                               
implement changes in a district.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:32:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEVENS remarked  that superintendents  are often  in more                                                               
political positions.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:32:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN  said that it  might be helpful for  the committee                                                               
to  understand more  of the  inner workings  of the  program, and                                                               
asked what the typical interaction with the program was.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:33:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WHITELEY explained  that a coach spends an average  of two to                                                               
three days with  the principals during site visits,  and talks on                                                               
the phone  once or twice a  week with each principal;  also there                                                               
is a  bi-weekly conference  call with  all of  his coaches.   The                                                               
coach  also supplies  materials, resources,  and offers  support.                                                               
All of the coaches are part-time.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:34:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WILKEN remarked  on  the challenges  to  funding in  the                                                               
history  of the  program, and  that though  the program  was very                                                               
highly spoken  of it would be  a challenge to find  money for it,                                                               
and also discussed  various ways of finding money  for the mentor                                                               
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:39:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. THOMPSON  replied that  in this year's  budget there  is $2.7                                                               
million in a  general fund request, and the  University of Alaska                                                               
did contribute their usual $500,000.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:40:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN asked  if the budget for the program  was still $5                                                               
million.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:40:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SAMPSON replied  that the $5 million  budget was not                                                               
enough to serve  their goals for this year, and  that the mentors                                                               
were overworked.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:41:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN asked for clarification  on the number of teachers                                                               
that come from in-state.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:41:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SAMPSON replied that it was one in five.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:42:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WHITELEY  stated that Alaska post-secondary  institutions can                                                               
only train up to 225 teachers a year.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:42:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN asked  if every Alaskan-trained teacher  had a job                                                               
upon graduation.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:42:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WHITELEY  replied that not  every teacher  takes a job  or is                                                               
hired,   but  that   there  are   clearly  more   vacancies  than                                                               
candidates.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:42:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DAVIS asked for clarification on the age of the program.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:43:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WHITELEY replied that they were in their fourth full year.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:43:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DAVIS asked how many mentors there were.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. WHITELEY replied that they  currently had 27 mentors and nine                                                               
coaches, and  that they  wanted three more  mentors and  one more                                                               
coach.  They  did not receive the funding last  year until it was                                                               
too late to recruit.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:44:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DAVIS asked  for clarification on the  budget totals, and                                                               
why they were  asking for $5 million when the  program would more                                                               
clearly benefit from $7 million.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. WHITELEY replied  that the mentor program  had prepared three                                                               
different budgets, and they have  confidence that the legislature                                                               
will make the proper decision.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:46:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS  asked what the dropout  rate was, and if  it was                                                               
an indicator of success in the program?                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:46:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SAMPSON  replied  that   the  mentoring  impact  is                                                               
difficult to measure but the dropout rate remains high.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:47:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGGINS asked  if  there was  a  state-wide strategy  to                                                               
abate the dropout rate.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:48:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEVENS  pointed  out  that   several  bills  were  to  be                                                               
presented to  the committee  in the near  future that  dealt with                                                               
the subjects of drop-out rates and truancy.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:48:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SAMPSON replied  that it was a major  concern of the                                                               
department  as well,  and was  to be  a concern  of a  state-wide                                                               
summit in Anchorage in April.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:50:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN asked  if the recent Moore vs. State  case made an                                                               
impression on the mentoring program.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:50:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SAMPSON replied  that  the judge  involved saw  the                                                               
program as proactive and positive.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:51:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WHITELEY remarked  that he  testified  in that  case for  90                                                               
minutes  and   he  agreed  that   the  program  was   thought  of                                                               
positively.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:51:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEVENS said  that  he  knew one  of  the  coaches on  the                                                               
program  list and  that he  understood the  very hard  work.   He                                                               
asked what percentage of the coaches were retired.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:52:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SAMPSON  replied that  one third of  their program's                                                               
mentors are retired or on a  break, and that they are on contract                                                               
with the  program.  The  other mentors  are on loan,  and receive                                                               
the  same  salary  and  are  guaranteed  a  spot  back  in  their                                                               
district.   The least experienced  has six years  experience, and                                                               
the most has 31.  All of the principal coaches are retired.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:54:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS asked if the  budget includes funds from the Alaska                                                               
Student Loan Corporation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:54:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. THOMPSON  replied that $1.2  million in funds to  the program                                                               
come from  secondary education, $2.7 million  from general funds,                                                               
and the remaining is from federal funds and the university.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:54:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS  asked if  anyone from the  audience would  like to                                                               
comment.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.   FRANCIS  stated   that  the   Alaska   Council  of   School                                                               
Administrators was supportive of the  program, and that they were                                                               
concerned with  the retention of  superintendents, and  were very                                                               
happy to see them included in the program.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:56:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BILL  BJORK, NEA-Alaska,  stated  that  NEA-Alaska supported  the                                                               
program and wanted to see  it expanded because they recognize the                                                               
cost of replacing teachers, and  the program is a good investment                                                               
fiscally and quality-wise.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:58:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN called  the committee's attention to  a summary of                                                               
school   funding    programs   published   under    the   Knowles                                                               
administration,  helpful  for  seeing  the  different  ways  that                                                               
educational funding is distributed.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:02:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS, seeing no further  business, adjourned the Special                                                               
Committee on Education meeting at 9:02 a.m.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                

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